In this episode of the Liberal Europe Podcast, Leszek Jażdżewski (Fundacja Liberté!) welcomes Mark Leonard, Co-Founder and Director of the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR), the first pan-European think tank. They talk about whether ties between countries foster conflicts, how Europe should behave in relation to the aggressive policies of China and Russia, and whether it is possible to cooperate and create rules limiting the negative effects of interdependence.

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